

But I don't want to get into those arguments. Xpel, gets the hate based on the all or nothing contracts and in some cases having less than the best products. I don't really care about the $ to performance, as I know 3M gets allot of hate been the most expensive vs the relative performance. In terms of installers and access, the easiest one is 3M, followed random brands, Suntek, XPEL and a distant STEK. Was wondering how things stack up now days. I'm thinking of wrapping my cars and seen that over the last couple of years, few of the brands have released some updated to the films. I was just giving ideas on how he could try to lay it down. Yep, love thy Crystalline, I have it on a couple of that was OP in his thread. So basically I am going to have eat the cost of the initial install, pay a different shop about an hour of labor to remove the bad film, and pay again to have something decent put on, like a Huper Optik, Llumar, or Global product. Maybe to keep costs lower to attract business.I don't know. So not exactly sure why he would be pushing subpar products with his experience. I just thought this guy knows what he is doing since all of his reviews were very positive, he takes his time with the installs to reduce as much moisture as possible and ensure edges are all clean, and isn't a newbie in the business (at least a decade if not longer). So just a bit upset since it seems like I will not be able to resolve with the installer (only recourse I potentially have is to start posting negative reviews).

Probably should have done my homework beforehand. The film in question is an ASWF excel irp 70%.yeah, I know. Glass is factory glass on a vehicle about half a year old (forgot to answer this question before). I would agree with what I described as a very fine scale orange peel would be considered grainy as Dano mentioned above

So just to answer a couple questions and address a few of the comments floating around:
